A tribute to Lucie Clift Price "Lucie Clift Price was a charter member of our association in 1963 and was President over the years of 1966 to 1983. She died 9 Sep 1983 and we lost a great researcher. She lived in various places during this time but mostly in Austin, Texas and used the University library. Her grandmother was Nancy Ann Delila (Clift), daughter of Martin Pipkin. I visited her a number of times and she was a very gracious and charming individual." Wm Philip Pipkin Some Pipkin Letters, from the Lucie Clift Price Collection - PFA member Doris A. Bennett made these available to us doing all the transcribing. NOTE TO READER: One must understand these letters contain the information Ms Price put together and may contain errors. *** 502 Texas Ave. Austin, Texas July 22, 1955 Rev. Frank Moseley Eutaw, Alabama Dear Rev moseley - Your name was given to me by Mr. Peter A. Brannon, Director of the Alabama Archives and History. I wrote to this Dept. seeking information regarding my Pipkin relatives who lived in Alabama. A cousin and I are trying to work up the early Pipkin family history. I will give you a resume of what we know. Original ancestor in U.S. from Wales - Richard or Stephen Pipkin Six sons, four of whom were Methodist preachers, all born in North Carolina. (Do not know order of birth) 1. Richard - Methodist preacher, remained in Alabama 2. Unknown name - Methodist preacher, remained in Alabama 3. David - _______Ala. Arkansas in 1840's 4. Martin Luther - md. Nancy Beasley in Tucaloosa 1818, died 1865 Conecuh Co. Ala. written in his bible - went to Arkansas 1840's 5. Barnabas d. 1878 born Wayne Co. N.C. emigrated to Miss. 1820 as itenerant Meth. preacher - went to Louisiana - Darlington, St. Helena Parish - 6. Lewis b. 1778 North Carolina d. July 3, 1863/65 Glenville Ark. Ordained by Bishop Asbury 1803 From N.C. lived in Georgia, Alabama and Arkansas - H became blind before his death and he lived with his son Daniel. He married Phoebe Beasley in Alabama. His children were: 1. John Fletcher b. d. 1890 Beaumont, Texas Was in Texas by 1847, first preacher in Beaumont - etc 2. Stephen - Methodist preacher 3. Mallard 4. Daniel Four daughters, Margaret, Emily, Elizabeth and Thursy Mr. Brannon wrote that you are compiling a biographical dictionary of all the prominent Methodists and particularly the Methodist preachers who have ever worked in Alabama. We know practically nothing about the first two Pipkins, Richard and unknown who remained in Alabama -but know more about Barnabas and Lewis - Many of Lewis's descendants are living - I have a letter written by a grandson of Lewis, Edgar Malone Pipkin who wrote "Uncle Barnabas visited my father and my grandfather during the dark days of the Civil War. I was a small boy at the time but I remember distinctly the venerable and patriarchal figures of Uncle Barnabas and my grandfather Lewis - and how they use to talk and pray during the long hours of day and night "etc" - It seems probable that Rev. Lewis may have named his son John Fletcher for one of John Wesley's early converts in England. Our original ancestor is reputed to have come from Wales and to have been an early convert of John Wesley's - He was a wagon maker and Methodist preacher. (as you know they all had to make a living at some trade - and were likely lay preachers) There have been a number of Pipkin Methodist preachers - Of course we are interested in all the Pipkin genealogy - but would appreciate having any information you may find in your research - and so want the name of the missing brother - I am of the Martin Luther line but can give you names of great grandchindren of Lewis - who are living in various places. Very sincerely, Mrs. Lucie C. Price ******** Austin, Texas July 29, 1955 Dear Rev. Moseley, Thank you so much - you are indeed a "find" for us - I have written to National Archives about Stephen b. 1757 Dobbs Co. N.C. in Conecuh Co. Ala. by 1820 - but have not heard from them yet - takes weeks - So I'll be glad to enclose a check for the photostats - Order two, you use what information it contains if you need it - And I know you don't care for it as a permanent possession but we would - and I'll send one to a remote cousin - Miss Lilla McLure, 1038 Sheridan, Shreveport, La -- She is of the Rev. Lewis Pipkin line - and I am of Lewis's brother, Martin Luther - The Rev. Charles Dixon Pipkin 1871 Ark. 1941 Matador Texas was a great grandson of Martin Luther - Rev. Charles D.'s father was William B. Pipkin b. in Ark. March 1, 1846, d. May 9, 1932 in Matador - William B. (Barnabas likely) was a son of the first son Charles (twin boys Charles and Barney (Barnabas)of Martin Luther & Nancy Beasley - and were born Aug. 20, 1819 in Ala. (where-Conecuh Co.) 1. Martin Luther b. N.C. d. 1865 ? Ark. md. Nancy Beasley 1818 Tusculoosa Ala. d. 1858 2. Charles b. 8-20-1819 d. abt. 1865 Civil War - buried Richmond, Va. 3. William B. b. 3-1-1846 Ark. d. 5--9-1932 Matador Texas 4. Rev. Charles Dixon Pipkin b. 1871 Ark. d. 1941 Matador, Texas (I'll try to find more on Rev. Charles D.P. if you want it - in our Texas library or from some relatives) Re: I Rev. Lewis Pipkin b. 1777 d. July 3, 1863/65 Glenvil Ark. md. Phoebie or Faribey Beasley 1749 He may have had 10 children but only 8 are known - 2 probably died as infants. Son 1. Daniel Griffin b. 1819 Ala. d. 1903 Glenville, Ark. md. Julia Marks whose sister Anne Marks married his brother Stephen (1) Edgar Malone (also a Meth. preacher I think) (data available) 2. John Fletcher - Md. Amelia Rabb of Ala d. 1890 Beaumont, Texas (Have been unable to get data except on his son Stephen - am trying now Enclosing photostat - please return think John Fletcher was oldest son of Lewis - I have a letter written by Edgar Malone in 1928 Re: Rev. Barnabas Pipkin- Born 1795 Wayne Co. N.C. Died 1878 - Louisiana Moved to Darlington, St. Helena Parish, La. 1827 - one son Henry W. substantial planter of Lookout, La. in St. Helena Parish Henry W. had no children. You have more about him than we do. Edgar Malone wrote "Uncle Barnabas visited my father (Daniel G.) and my grandfather (Lewis) during the dark days of Civil War. I remember distinctly the venerable and patriarchal figures of Uncle Barnabas and my grandfather. I remember how they use to talk and pray during the long hours of day and night. My grandfather was born in 1778 during the Revolutionary War - and died in 1865 soon after Lee's surrender. My grandfather remained in N.C. until after he was grown & married. Then he moved Westward stopping for a few years in Georgia. Then he went to Alabama where most if not all of his children were born & reared. My father was the youngest child (Daniel Griffin). I will see what I can find about Rev. Wm. A Smith Mrs. Robert A. Smith - d. 1940 Mrs. Mary H. Mitchell d. 1931 and try to locate descendants. The newspapers will be available in Univ. of Texas library or State Library. I work - so if I don't send it immediately please know I will - soon as possible. Have a son marrying soon also - I joined the Presbyterian church when I married and my father was horrified "saying" - You know our people have always been Methodists!" Miss Lilla McLure, 1038 Sheridan, Shreveport, La. is a greatgranddaughter of Daniel Griffin - and g g gd of Rev. Lewis if you care to write her - She and I are collaborting on the Pipkin history. If there's anymore I can do, let me know - Thank you so very much - Also thank you for the church program. Sincerely Mrs. L.C. Price ******** July 30, 1955 Dear Rev. Moseley, I phoned our State Archivist whom I know and he said they had the newspapers and he would have them brought in from where they are stored. So I will get to look at them Tuesday. They are bound in 3 months series. I will have to look in Texas Methodists for Rev. Wm. A. Smith as you did not give date of death - suppose you don't know it. I phoned a Wm. A. Smith in the phone directory but he is no relation - (is also a Presbyterian and not a Methodist). Will also phone First Methodist church Monday to see if the three you mentioned were listed as members. Oakwood Cemetery contains a lot of graves but I may be able to get location of lots from caretaker and can get date of death of Rev. Smith. The Alabama librarian or archivist mentioned yhou were compiling a book of prominent Methodist and especially of early Alabama ministers. Is the Methodist list restricted to Alabama? My grandfather (maternal) James McMurry Dunn was very active in the Methodist church. He never was pastor of a church, but performed marriages, held funerals, gave sacrement, helped with revivals and was loved by all who knew him. The Pipkin line is on my father's side. Will let you know soon as I can about the 3 people and hope I am able to locate descendants. Sincerely, Mrs. Lucie C. Price 502 Texas Ave. Austin, Texas I wrote Pastor Methodist Church, Hawkinsville (Pulaski Co.) Georgia to see about Regan's church where Barnabas Pipkin was converted. ******** August 4, 1955 Dear Rev. Moseley: I called Miss Gilmore today and she told me that she got in touch with you the same way I did - through the Alabama Archives. She told me that she found Mrs. Mary Mitchell in the April 29, 1931 paper, somehow I just overlooked it. She gave me a lead about someone being related to Mrs. Mitchell, I called this woman, but she was related to Mr. Mitchell, as it is Mrs. Houghton Brownlee of Burnet, Texas. She told me that the only known blood relation she knew of was Mrs. John H. Chiles 1606 West Ave, Austin, Texas. I do not know if Mrs. Chiles is still living and she didn't seem to know either. She would be more than 74 years old. There is a son of Mrs. Chiles, John H. Chiles, Jr. 1802 Forrest Trail, Austin, Texas. You might write to him and ask him to refer the letter to his mother. I guess I could find out, but if she is incapacitated he would have to answer the letter anyway. The woman who gave me the information about the Mrs. Chiles is Mrs. James R. Hamilton, 2405 Nueces St. Austin. But she and Mrs. Brownlee are both from the Mitchell side and not the Smith side. Miss Gilmore got more satisfactory information for you than I did, and I am glad she could find it. The Archives haven't made that photocopy yet, went by there today at noon but I told them to just mail it to you direct when they got it made as I willl be out of town for a few days. Miss Gilmore said she copied the information. Thank you for Mrs. Crocker, Arkadelphia, Ark. I think Miss Mary Lilla McLure, 1038 Sheridan, Shreveport, La. had her address. I am going to give the original letter I have that Edgar Malone Pipkin wrote about his grandfather and Barnabas to one of his daughters but don't know which one would appreciate it most yet. If you don't get good information about Rev. Lewis, and Daniel Griffin and Edgar Malone, write to Miss McLure, as she has quite a bit of it, perhaps more even than Mrs. Crocker has. I had a very welcome letter yesterday in answer to one I wrote in June to who-I- hoped was a grandson of John Fletcher Pipkin, son of Lewis. It was just a chance name and address but it was the right one, named John F. for his grandfather. He has turned the letter over to a cousin, Mrs. H.E. Kennedy, 2170 Sabine Pass Ave. Beaumont, Texas. She wrote, "I wanted you to know that I have information about the family that I know will be of interest to you and as soon as I have had time to get it together I will send it to you". So, can hardly wait to get it. I wrote her about you, and asked if she knew the date and name of the paper that clipping was from. Am sure it was a Beaumont paper but don't know the date. I will be glad to send you another photostat of it if you want it. So, she is you best bet to get information about John Fletcher Pipkin. I have some more that I got out of the Texas Archives. John Fletcher became a Judge and was in the lumber business also, and his son Stephen Walker became rather wealthy I believe. The John F. still living is the last of the Stephen Walker line and has no issue. I do not know how Mrs. Kennedy is exactly related to him. If she doesn't answer I'll send you what I do know and have. I looked in a couple of Methodist books but could only find Charles Dixon Pipkin's picture, will see what I can find out at the University Archives or write Southwestern as you suggested. I wrote a letter to Matador, addressed to Children or Grandchildren of Rev. Charles Dixon Pipkin, maybe I will get an answer. I know that he died about 1936/40. Am leaving next Tuesday and will be gone a few days but will get back on this when I return. So enjoyed your church program and the information on the back. You go to a lot of trouble to make things interesting but that helps get people to church. ******** August 5, 1955 Mrs. Lucie C. Price 502 Texas Ave. Austin, Texas My dear Mrs. Price, Your letter of July 29 to the librarian at Millsaps College regarding the Pipkin family has been referred to me because I am chairman of the Conference Historical Society and therefore in charge of the historical archives. The college actually has no connection with our records other than the fact that they are kept in a room at the college library. In regard to Rev. Lewis Pipkin, I will say that we have no record that I can find, since his death took place in Arkansas. For that reason it is not likely that any memoir appeared in Mississippi papers, particularly in view of the fact that it occurred during the Civil War, when the New Orleans Advocate had suspended publication. Rev. Richard Pipkin was admitted into the Mississippi Conference on trial in 1823 and served the Alabama Circuit in 1824. He was out of the Conference until 1829, after which he served the Jones Valley Circuit in Alabama one year, the Chickasawhay Circuit, and the Wilkinson Circuit, both in Mississippi, one year each, and then Oakmulgee Circuit in Alabama in 1832, becoming a charter member of the Alabama Conference when it was organized during that year. However, he dropped out of the Alabama Conference at its first session and his name appeas no more in our records. We have no record at all of Rev. Stephen Pipkin. The Rev. Barnabas Pipkin was admitted into the South Carolina Conference in 1818, but after two years in that body, he came to Mississippi as a missionary, and served churches and districts in Mississippi and Louisiana, which in early days was included in the Mississippi Conference, until his retirement in 1871 and his death on May 11, 1878. A copy of his memoir, also a list of his appointments, are enclosed on a separate sheet. There is no charge for this information, since it seems to be difficult to determine a basis for making a charge, but we suggest instead that wherever persons who are the recipient of information feel disposed to do so, they may sned a small contribution to the Mississippi Conference Historical Society, which will aid in carring on its work. Very sincerely yours, J.B. Caine, Chairman Conference Historical Society ******** (Martin Luther was a brother of Rev. Lewis, Barnabas, Richard, David and _______ Pipkin) Martin Luther Pipkin born 1798 in North Carolina, died cerca 1865 Lafayette Co. Arkansas md. Nancy Beasley 1818 at Tuscaloosa, Ala. 2. Charles - born Aug. 20, 1919 Killed in Civil War, buried Richmond, a. md. a __________ Wright. Lived in Arkansas. 3. William Barnabas - born Ark. March 1, 1846 d. May 9, 1932 Matador, Texas md. 1869 Martha Ann Riley, April 1, 1869 at Falcon, Ark. 4. Rev. Charles Dixon born 1871 in Arkansas, died 1941 Matdor, Texas (Methodist minister) Md. Ida T. Edmondson Feb. 2, 1898 (She is still living) 5. Issue: William Neal born 11-19-98 md. Opal Estes James Earl born 8-12-01 md. Edith Wintle Mary Jane born 10-3--03 died in infancy Charles Clyde born 2-2-1906 md. Ruth Carter died 1947 Irene born 7-14-1910 died at age 6 Lesly born 7-9--1913 md Ruth Futteral Cecil born 11-18-1916 md. 1st Bick Futteral 2nd Jackie Lambert Rev. Charles D. Pipkin has a nephew Rev. Nathan B. Pipkin of Roswell, New Mexico, who is Methodist Assistant Pastor. Rev. Nathan's father was named "Bush". Above information sent by William Neal Pipkin, son of Rev. Charles D. Pipkin, Box 748 Matador, TexasRev. Charles D. Pipkin would be a great-great great nephew of Rev. Lewis, Barnabas, Richard, etc. Rev. Nathan B. Pipkin, Roswell, New Mexico, would be a great-great-great nephew of above Revs. ******** Aug. 15, 1955 Dear Rev. Moseley, Thanks a lot for getting photostats of Stephen Pipkin - but am disappointed children weren't named - Haven't given up yet tho - Data were interesting anyway - he hired two people to do his military service - wonder why! Maybe big family at home to support - or still a bit loyal to the old country - And if he made his mark - couldn't write - but many couldn't - Anyway his sons (if our ancestor's father) could - Had an answer from sister of Rev. Charles Dixon Pipkin - and she is going to send some data she said - Glad to get a responce as I'm interested too. Will send it when I get it - I stopped in Shreveport, La. to see Miss Lilla McLure, great-great granddaughter of Lewis Pipkin and she thinks she has located to ordination paper of Lewis by Bishop Asbury! in another branch of family. I urged her to get it soon as possible - have photostats made, & place it in some archives - Arkansas or Ala - Lilla McClure's address is 1038 Sheridan, Shreveport, La - Lewis was ordained in 1803 she says - so that paper is valuable - The family who has it doesn't appreciate its value. Rev. Cain of Magnolia, Miss. sent data, & to you also, but you have as much as he does already I believe. Appreciate his responce - & the name of Step-great gd of Barnabas - & the memoir of Barnabas - all so interesting. Thanks for your kind interest - and I'll try to send data on Rev. Chas. D. Dixon - (but he didn't serve in Ala.) as your mimeographed sheet indicated - but you must be doing more than that - Most sincerely, Mrs. L.C. Price 502 Texas Ave- Austin 5, Texas My son married in El Dorado, Ark. Aug 13 so I'm barely home again - ******** Russellville, Ky Aug. 18, 1955 Dear Bro. Mosely, Thanks for return of the clipping. Now, as best I can I'll try to give you all the family data I can. The children of Edgar Malone Pipkin & Ella Jenell Pipkin were as follows: 1. Edgar Malone Pipkin, Jr. Anna Mae Elfingstone (wife) Edgar died Apr. 4, 1947. His wife emarried- is now Mrs. Bob Howard & lives in Helena, Ark. 117 Oakland Ave 2. Namie Junell Pipkin Lindsay married Edw. Porter Lindsay Oct. 7, 1918 deceased (Apr. 4, 1941) I'm now living in Russellville, Ky. 349 W 9th St. 3. John Granberry Piplin married Bess Peay, June 16, 1922 John died May 21, 1950 Bess died June 23, 1953 They lived in Little Rock, Ark. 4. Ruth Wilburn Pipkin married Fred Ralph Suits July 28, 1910. They lived in Newport, Ark. Both are now deceased. 5. Alice Pipkin Owen married Dr. Henry M. Owen Dec. 31, 1912. Now living at 2204 Schiller Ave. Little Rock, Ark. 6. Ella Catherine Pipkin married James Edw. Crocker - unsure of the date James is now dead Ella lives in Arkadelphia, 5th & Hardin. 7. Vivian Lucille Pipkin died in infancy 8. Charles Wooten Pipkin never married - died in 1941 while Dean of the Graduate School, L.S.U. Baton Rouge, La. Mary Lilla McLure is the grandaughter of Papa's sister Mary (Mollie) Pipkin Brown deceased & of course is Papa's great niece. Sorry, but I'm unable to give you addresses of any of the decendants of Papa's uncles, John Fletcher, Stephen & Mellard Pipkin. Their names are only slightly remembered. If I can help further please call on me. Sorry I can't be of more help. Sincerely, Junell P. Lindsay ******** 502 Texas Ave. Austin, Texas Aug. 25, 1955 Rev. F.S. Moseley Eutaw, Ala. Dear Rev. Moseley - I hate to keep bothering you - but could you tell me what you have to show the Pipkins (Barnabas, etc.) came to Alabama in 1816? You wrote that Barnabas was converted at Regan's church, Pulaski Co. Ga. I have been unable to get any data on Regan's church - Miss McLure of Shreveport said she had ordered the West's History of Ala. Methodism" you mentioned - perhaps there's something in it. I received some data today from a woman in Hawkinsville, Ga. (Pulaski Co.) showing on an Early Tax Digest of Pulaski Co. of 1818 Martin, Barnabas, David, Lewis, Stephen, (no Richard) also names of other Pipkins - Abraham, Amos, & William - Asa - Stephen is shown as buying land 1818 - 1815 - 1821 - Also - I wonder if the Stephen you show as the missing brother could have possibly been the one whose Rev. War record we got - & whom we think was possibly the father? As we have "heard" that their father was a convert of John Wesley & a Methodist preacher - & if William could be the missing brother - I am going to get early Georgia census record 1820 if possible & see if any were there as late as 1820 - don't think so - Saw Conecuh Co. Ala. census of 1830 & it showed Stephen between 70/80 years - Lewis 50/60 yrs., Martin 30/40, David 30/40 (The 3 brothers went to Arkansas later -) Barnabas was elsewhere, Richard elsewhere - We got more on Barnabas & Richard from "Methodism in Mississippi" Vol.II, 1817-1845 by John G. Jones - which Mrs. Russell Bailey, Coffeeville, Miss. found in library at Camp Lake Stephens where she was attending a School of Missions - Her data gave the name of James H. Mellard, a Thomas Griffin, William Winans, etc - One of Rev. Lewis sons named Mellard (as you said) one Daniel Griffin, one of Martin Luther's sons named John Winans - But she did not find Rev. Lewis, so he must have been a local preacher. Miss McLure thinks she has located his ordination paper by Bishop Asbury - but I haven't heard for sure - Oddly enough, a cousin had loaned me a book published in 1839 by Nathan Bangs, D.D., Vol. II History of M.E. Church 1793/1816 & the Revs. Mellard, Griffin, Winans are mentioned - I have asked my cousin to give the book to the Miss. Methodist Historical Society if they don't have a copy - as it would be of more value to them than to Alabama - as Ala. was in the Miss. Conf - She may want to keep it - I have asked Rev. Cain if they have it - I had a letter today from Mrs. W.B. Smith 1101 Miss. Ave. Greenwood, Miss. Who is a granddaughter of Rev. Barnabas second wife, Mrs. Bradford. She remembered visiting the home place - She said Barnabas & Wilber and an old maid Aunt "Ann" lived there - She spoke of the 3 as Barnabas' children - but thinks she is mistaken - Mrs. Smith's father (Bradford) & Uncle T.C. Bradford were both Methodist preachers - & her daoghter, Mrs. I.H. Sells, Poplarville, Miss. is wife of one - Mrs. Smith is in her 80's Pardon the rambling - I would like to know about the 1816 to Ala - & the Stephen (brother or father). Sincerely Mrs. L.C. Price ******** ------- the woman from Georgia wrote also - War of 1812 soldiers from Pulaski Co. Private David Pipkin Private Martin Pipkin Barnabas Pipkin, Sergt. received 12.00 monthly Fort Mitchell 1814 Martin Pipkin Ensign, paid $20 month at Ft. Mitchell Aug. Oct. 1814 (?) William Pipkin, private - $8 month, Ft. Mitchell 1814 (?) Amos - $8 month Am writing for David, Barnabas, Martin & William's records - How did you get such quick action on Stephen -? It takes them so long to answer - & I do not know regiments etc. to fill out form - So - your one remark about Barnabas converted Pulaski Co. Ga - has brought results you see - Lewis was 34 by 1812 - don't know where Richard was then - maybe too young for service - Barnabas only 17 or 19 - (This was in Mrs. Price's handwriting) ******** Tyler Street Methodist Church Lewis N. Stuckey, Minister 921 W. Tenth Street Dallas, Texas Sept. 8, 1955 Dear Mrs. Price: I am afraid I cannot be of any material help to you in your effort to trace down the Pipkin genealogy. However, I feel certain that my father was related to the Pipkins. When I was the minister of First Methodist Church in Beaumont I well remember that my father and the Pipkin family there considered themselves kin and we had many good visits with them. My grandfather married in north Arkansas near Russellville. My grandmother, I think, was a Martin before her marriage but probably her mother was a Pipkin. Since my grandfather died in the Civil War when my father was an infant, he had very little contact with the family. My grandmother married again to a Mr. Linker and they moved to Hopkins County, Texas. She and Mr. Linker had a number of children and they are scattered over various parts of Texas and Oklahoma. Both my grandfather Stuckey and my grandfather Little had as their first names Lewis and this is where I got my name. If you are tracing our geneology, I might say that I have three children: Mrs. Walter Hofheinz of Thiells, N.Y. who was born Mary Ida Stuckey; Mrs. Carl Nighswonger, whose husband is a student in Perkins School of Theology in Dallas, was born Patricia Stuckey, and Lewis N. Stuckey, Jr. who, this year will be a student in Duke University in North Carolina. He is a student for the ministry. Your letter was indeed interesting and I appreciate your writing to me. Sincerely, Lewis N. Stuckey (It is thought that the above is a descendant of Thursy, daughter of Rev. Lewis, who married a Stuckey. Perhaps census records will help to clear the relationship)Thursy was a sister of John Fletcher Pipkin of Beaumont, and also of Mallard, Stephen and Daniel Griffin. Am sure the father of above Rev. Stuckey knew of the Pipkin relationship but presume he is not living. ******** 502 Texas Ave. Austin, Texas September 9, 1955 Dear Rev. Moseley: I have gleaned the enclosed information about Rev. Charles Dixon Pipkin, and have sent a letter to Southwestern University, Georgetown, Texas for anything they may have concerning him. I am also enclosing a copy of ta letter from Rev. Lewis Stuckey, whom I am sure is a descendant of Rev Lewis Pipkin of Conecuh County, Ala. Rev. Lewis had a daughter Tursy who married a Stuckey, and has a descendant preacher. Am sorry that he does not know more about his family, but perhaps we can get something from the census records, and enlighten him. He says that his father was related to the Beaumont Pipkins, and Thursy was a sister of John Fletcher Pipkin, first preacher in Beaumont. So when our early ancestor became a convert of John Wesley, he left a long line of Methodist preachers. You say Stephen Pipkin was in 1820 census of Conecuh Co. Ala. I thought that census record was lost. It is not available at the University of Texas. I found the 1830 one, found Stephen (73 years old in 1830), Lewis (53 yrs.), Martin (32 yrs.), David with the ages of their children. Then in 1840 census, did not find Stephen so he must have died 1837/1840 but found David, Martin (42 yrs.) Lewis (63 yrs.) and 3 of Lewis's sons, namely - Mallord, John, and Stephen. Mallord 30/40 John 30/40 Stephen 20/30 Daniel Griffin was 21 yrs. and it appears he may have been living with his father Lewis and married. So, I will presume John Fletcher, Mallord (or Mellard) Stephen and Daniel were in order of ages. In Pulaski Co. Georgia there is a William Pipkin named along with the others, and the name William is used frequently for some of the older sons in the Pipkin family so I am wondering if this William was the missing brother instead of Stephen. And if the Rev. Stephen you found was the older Stephen, whom I still think was the father of the 6 boys. I am now trying to get the 1812 War records. I do not have much luck getting war records, as they always write back that they can't find them or that I did not give sufficient information. Have wondered how you got Stephen's so readily, when probably all you had was a pension application from Conecuh Co. 1837. I found Martin Luther's age in the 1860 census of Lafayette Co. Ark. as 62 yrs. so he was born 1798 and was younger than Barnabas. David was at least 8 years older, so it appears that the order was Lewis, the missing brother, Richard or David, Barnabas and Martin Luther. Martin named one of his twin sons (firstborn) Barnabas. So, I am of the opinion that Stephen born 1757 was the father. He was in Pulaski Co Ga. and in Conecuh Co. Ala. 1830, and there were grandsons named Stephen, and great-grandsons. Discovered when at the Univ. library that you have also been corresponding with the mother of Miss Llerena Friend. Miss Friend is librarian of the Eugene Barker Historical Center, which contains the census reports and archives. She said her ancestors were early Methodist ministers also. My cousin found she had the 3rd volume of Rev. Bangs History of Methodism. I want to give the 2 vols. to someone, perhaps to the Arkansas Methodist Historical Society if there is such. But would like to place them where there are no copies now. I found Rev. Barnabas' name in Vol. 3. Sincerely Mrs. L.C. Price ******** 1038 Sheridan, Shreveport, LA Sept. 9, 1955 Rev. Frank Mosely, Eutaw, Alabama My dear Mr. Mosely, I have your correspondence with Mrs. Lucie Price of Austin Texas with reference to the Pipkin ministers of Alabama. I am a descendent of the Lewis Pipkin line of Conech Co., my great grand father being Daniel who was born in Conecuh Co. 1819, son of Lewis. He came to Arkansas around 1841. In Alabama he had married Julia Marks, whose family seems to have had an unusual history. Julia attended Evergreen College (for girls)? When I was a small child she had some paintings on her wall which she made there. Her sister Anne married another son of Lewis, Stephen. They, too, came to Arkansas but moved on to Brownsville, Texas. There are Pipkins there today who, I presume, are their descendents. A sister Mary Williams married a Mr. Shipman and they went to Texas by way of Arkansas. A fourth sister Jane Frances married 1836 James Strother Caller and remained in Alabama. I have been told that one of her daughters married Bishop McCoy. I wonder if you can verify this and through this connection throw some light on the Marks family. They seemed to have been a family of some culture and wealth. In addition to the four daughters, there were two boys, Fleming and John. Their mother was a Fleming, left a widow. She was killed by one of her slaves, who saddled a horse for her to oversee the plantation and then laid in wait for her and killed her. After the mothers death these children went to live with and aunt whose husband was said to be a Methodist preacher. My ggrandmother Julia, always spoke of her as aunt Pritchett and that is all we know, except she was very rigid in her training, which the girls resented and the boys ran away. Maybe by some happy coincident you have some information of this family. Do you think there would be any information available about the Evergreen school? Julia Marks was a dignified, beautiful and regally elegant lady with the true poise and bearing of a high-bred woman. Since she married and came to pioneer Arkansas when she was only 15, much of this must have been inherent. It puzzles me to know why so many left Alabama in the 40"s, since the settlements there were comparatively new, and it was truly a beautiful country. Arrriving in Arkansas, they sought a similar terrain--hils and springs. and not the low lands-- - such a place was the old Glenville community of Nevada County. A beautiful church was built there in the prosperous 1880's but the railroads drew the citizens to other places so that today only the cemetery remains surrounded by a dense forest. In this old cemetery is buried Rev. Lewis Pipkin and his wife, Faribey; his son Daniel and wife, Julia Marks; and a son Mellard who was married three times of whose wives I have no record. Thank you for the information you have so freely given to us through Mrs. Price. I shall be happy to pay for any expense that may be involved in securing information for which I have asked. I recognize that a busy research man has little time to bother with the other fellow's projects. Wishing you success with your present undertaking very sincerely yours, Lilla McLure also of Alabama (Brundige, Pike Co-1836) ******* 502 Texas Ave. Austin Texas Nov. 23, 1955 Rev. Jas. E Tate 713 Church St Selma, Alabama Dear Rev. Tate Would you have anything in old church records about the Sardis Church near Belleville, Ala. as mentioned in Rev. Anson West's "History of Methodism in Alabama" in connection with Rev. Lewis Pipkin? We are also wondering if Rev. Lewis' father Stephen could have been buried in that church's cemetery. Also, would you know anything about Rev. Lewis Pipkin parchments of ordination - as mentioned by Rev. Anson West - ? Surely those parchments weren't destroyed - I wrote Alabama & South Carolina Archives - & they don't have them - Rev. West states about them as "now in hand" - I wrote his daughter the other day but haven't had time for a reply. My great-grandfather Martin Luther Pipkin (Lewis' brother) lived near a Sardis Church in Arkansas - & is buried in the church cemetery - & I expect it was named for the one in Conecuh Co. Ala - Will appreciate any help you can give us - Our Methodist ancestry is very interesting - Only wish we knew who was the original one-probably Rev. Lewis & Martins' father Stephen - born 1757 in Dobbs Co. N.C. or maybe his father even - Sincerely,Mrs. Lucie C. Price I have written a friend in North Carolina whose grandfather was a pioneer Methodist preacher in N.C. & her father may have some books on Methodism in N.C. Mr. Ivey of Charlotte, N.C. ******** 502 Texas Ave. Austin 5, Texas Rev. F.S. Moseley Eutaw, Ala. Dear Rev. Moseley: Miss Lilla McLure 1038 Sheridan, Shreveport, La., obtained this article from someone in Arkansas, and sent it to me to see. I had some photostats made of it, and am enclosing one for you to see. It may be that you have already seen the original in the Christian Advocate. This explains why nothing was found around the time that he died, cerca 1865, at the close of the Civil War. I nothce that nothing is mentioned about his other brother Stephen, who was also supposed to be a Methodist minister. I am wondering if that was true. Also, what became of Stephen. We can find the others but not Stephen. There was a Stephen Pipkin who bought land in Pulaski County Ga. as late as 1821, when the others had moved to Conecuh Co. Ala. and I wonder if that wasn't the son Stephen, rather than the father, and he remained in Georgia where he may have died. Becase he isn't shown in the 1820 census of Conecuh Co. Ala. with Stephen Sr. Lewis, David, Martin Richard isn't shown by name either. Barnabas had joined the South Carolina Conference by 1818 so that would explain him, and perhaps Richard (1823 Miss. Conf) was in the ministry too. Stephen Jr. seems to have disappeared. A woman is looking thru the deed books in Pulaski Co. Ga. for me, and maybe we can get a clue from that, as Stephen Sr. was in Conecuh Co. by 1820. (No one has found "Regan's Chapel" in Bleckley or Pulaski Co. Ga. where Barnabas converted) If you want to keep this photostat it is all right, but if you don't have any use for it, just return it. As I said, you may have already seen this. We are still obtaining various kinds of data, including the marriage date of Stephen and Amelia Thomson. The will of Amelia's father, David Thomson in Duplin Co. N.C. 1773 interested me, as he left to one son "a large Book called Burket on the New Testament". Makes me wonder if that is where the religious influence came from, thru Amelia, and if her father and she were early Methodists. Am sure you know ******** 502 Texas Ave Austin, Texas Feb. 20, 1956 Dear Rev. Mosley, So happy to get your letter - and the contents. How wonderful you have that diary of Peter Haskew. I wonder if his remarks about Lewis & Martin Pipkin - and funeral of their mother is on one page? I'd love to have a photostat of that if it is permissible - it would difinitely establish the family - and prove that relationship - as I have nothing so far that proves Martin as son of Amelia and Stephen. I will be only too happy to pay for it - and would like the negative so I could have other copies made - I don't want to interfere in any way with your project - Also it might be necessary to obtain permission to take photostat - from owner of diary. By all means keep the photostat I sent you - And I'm going to send you one about Rev. Barnabas in a few days. I believe it is from the Christian Advocate too - as church items on other side - It was written by Rev. J.G. Jones, Port Gibson, Miss. July 1, 1879 - and I expect you have see it - as it gives Barnabas conversion at "Regan's Chapel" - and his prior conversion at the church at Young's Camp ground in Sumpter Dist. S.C. - just before the family left S.C. Sumpter Dist. is southeast of Darlington Dist - and they were probably traveling to Georgia and stopped to attend a camp meeting - Gives us an indication of their route to Georgia - which seems to be overland - This article and the Rev. Lewis article were sent by Mrs. Virginia Stott Mathews, 319 N. Washington, Magnolia, Ark. She is a grand daughter of Elizabeth A. Pipkin, d. of Lewis, who md. Wm. Stott. She had 2 sons Joel Lafayette & Dan Webster. Mrs. Mathews is daughter of Dan - is 80 years of age. I don't understand the Mrs. Sophia Stott, wife of Marshall Stott, nee' Beasley, whose mother was of the "prominent Methodist Pipkin family" - and born 1817 Darlington Dist. S.C. The nee' Beasley is strange - except that Lewis' wife was a Beasley, also Martin's wife a Beasley (no proof). The Beaumont (Texas) Pipkins gave "Sophia Pipkin Howell" lived & died in Darlington Dist. S.C. and her husband's name was Ira. One of their sons died in Webster Co. Miss. about 1902 - So I don't understand the Sophia Stott - b.1817 in Darlington Dist. S.C. Lewis & Pharibay Beasley md. about 1803 -(unconfirmed) so they couldn't have had a granddaughter by 1817 - Perhaps Sophia Stott was a daughter of Sophia Pipkin Howell - and a niece of Rev. Lewis' - Rev. Lewis was in Georgia in 1817. Elizabeth A. who md. Wm. Stott is shown in census of 1850 as age 25 - and born in Ala. as was her husband. I'll ask Mrs. Virginia Stott Mathews about Sophia, wife of Marshall Stott - The Beaumont Pipkins compiled data in 1907 - but I have been unable to get the source of their data. The marriage date given for Amelia Thomson and Stephen Pipkin is April 21, 1779 which would alter Lewis birth date - Amelia was daughter of David Thomson - She had brothers William, David, James, Stephen, sister Martha - (Will of David Thomson - 1773 - p. 376 Grimes Abstract of N.C.Wills - They lived in Duplin Co. N.C.) Seemed to add a "p" later to name - Thompson - as Martin had a son named Thompson - and a grandson named Benj. Thompson - Am hoping to get more from Thomson line in N.C. They still spell name Thomson. "David Thomson was son of Thomas Thomson of Sterling Scotland - David born in Stirling & imigrated to America" so don't know where the Welsh ancestry of Amelia enters - unless her mother - name unknown. It seems strange that in write up of Lewis & Barnabas - that Stephen Jr. isn't mentioned - only Lewis, Richard & Barnabas. I wonder if Richard married - I believe Richard was youngest son - tho he may not have been - if Lewis born 1780 - David 1790, Martin 1794, Barnabas 1795 - Richard & Stephen Jr - could have come in between 1780/1790 - I am trying to get census record 1800 N.C. and 1810 - S.C. or Pulaski Co. Ga. to see how many children in Stephen's family. Miss Maude Kelly of Alabama Archives wants Stephen's grave located in Ala. but it's a tremendous task - If he died age 83 - that would be 1840 - If Amelia age 85 - & died 1840 - she was 2 years older than Stephen (article about Barnabas) He does not appear in 1840 census of Conecuh Co. David Stott may have been father of Wm Stott who married Lewis' daughter Elizabeth A. Where and how were you so fortunate as to obtain Peter Haskew's diary? Did you make a mistake in writing - that Amelia died March 5, 1840 - and Peter Haskew preached funeral May 17 - Perhaps they buried the deceased - and had the funeral later? If we only knew where Martin & Lewis lived - we might locate graves-(if a stone there) but the burned Conecuh Co. records prevent our locating their land - Please let me know if possible to get photostat of Rev. Haskew's diary - where Martin shown & death & funeral of his mother - I have an uncle, Charles W. Clift, (grandson of Martin living in Harlingen, Texas - age 87 - A new chapel has been added to the church to be called "Clift Chapel" - to be didicated Feb. 24 - I want to send the pastor the 2 photostats about Lewis & Barnabas - just to show my uncle's Methodist ancestry - Bishop Smith is to be there too - Thought the background might be of interest to them - And I'll send you the one of Rev. Barnabas soon as I can get it made - you've probably seen it - Most sincerely, Mrs. Lucie Clift Price Never could locate Regan's Church in Pulaski Co- but it was in Bleckley Co - (now Bleckley) I'm sure - Also have tried to get history of Sardis Church in Lafayette Co. Ark - near Martin's home - no success - ******** Feb. 22, 1956 Dear Rev. Moseley, If you want this to keep - do so - You may have seen it - but if it can serve any purpose keep it - Think I told you once that we know Rev. Lewis N. Stuckey, Pastor of Tyler St. Methodist Church, 921 W. Tenth St. Dallas, Texas is a great-gr. grandson of Rev. Lewis, descended thru "Thursy" or Thirza - d. of Lewis - who married a ______ Stuckey - but he doesn't know much of his genealogy - except his father said he was related to the Pipkins - He has a son studying for ministry - Duke Univ. N.C. B. Nathan Pipkin, Box 54, Scarret College, Nashville, Tenn. is a grandson of Charles D. Pipkin - Matador, Texas (deceased) - and is a great-great- grandson of Martin Pipkin's - studying further for ministry - Those 4 Methodist Pipkin brothers really started some preaching ____________________(unable to read last line on page)know it is still continued? Sincerely, Mrs. L.C. Price No wonder my father remarked "why, we've always been Methodists!"when he learned I was joining Presbyterian church. ******** Victoria Hospital, Texas July 17, 1956 Dear Rev. Haskew, My daughter forwarded your letter to me and was glad to hear from you. Sorry your wife has been ill but glad she is doing all right. I have been (am now) in the hospital again - the virus infection I had seemed to result in a nervous breakdown from which I'm having trouble getting over. I went back to work after being in a hospital in Austin 2 weeks but wasn't doing well so came to Victoria, Texas to a friend of my son's & this is my second week in the hospital here. He is giving me treatments. I may so home next week. Mail is certainly welcome as I don't know anyone here - and get so lonesome. I left all my genealogy at home. Your data was interesting. It practically proves that our Pipkins lived in the Beleville Circuit - if we only know the boundaries. The Stotts were related to Pipkins as one of the girls married a Stott. I wonder who he referred to as Rev. Pipkin. They all seemed to have separate households - but moved more or less together to Arkansas. Believe it was after death of their father Stephen. If you come across his death let me know. Wish we could locate their graves - probably buried deep in the woods - & no marker. Miss Maude Kelly of Alabama Archives would like to locate Stephen's to put Rev. War Marker there. Hope to hear from you again sometime - & trust we all enjoy better health before long. Sincerely, Lucie C. Price 502 Texas Ave. Austin Texas Enjoy your bulletins- Somehow-I got in touch with an H.E. Pipkins of Farmington, N.M. Had a letter from him today & guess what! His gr. gf & father were _______baptized in 1877 in Hickory Plains, Prairie Co. Ark. into Church of Latter Day Saints! Never have connected his relationship with our family exactly - who are Methodists for years & years. ******** Duncan, Okla. April 23, 1957 Rev. F.S. Moseley, Eutaw, Greene County, Alabama. Dear Sir: We have been corresponding with Mrs. Lucie Clift Price in Austin, Texas regarding the lineage for the Pipkin Family. She advises that you have the Diary of an early Alabama Preacher, Rev. Peter Haskew. We need, in order to establish lineage for Applicant in the Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution, (DAR), "documentary proof" of the statement that Rev. Haskew preached the funeral services for "the mother of Martin Pipkin, a Mrs. Amelia Thomason Pipkin, April 5, 1840". Regarding the last statement: Mrs. Price wrote recently that she was trying to contact you for a photostat. I am wondering if you have the facilities for photostating in Eutaw? If not, a Notarized statement will suffice, in this way: either typewritten, or in a very legible long-hand, copy the entire page which contains the statement, copy "beginning and end" of the diary, (if dated, signed etc--), and you sign the paper, have notarized, with seal etc, being sure all dates are noted., and send me same, and quote fee if any for typing etc. If this Diary contains much data etc regarding the early history of your State, it would be a "Good Citizen's" deed to either have same copied, photostated or send insured to our National D.A.R.. They have a wonderful library and of course it is growing all of the time. In the future, this Library will be one of the FEW places in our entire country which can render invaluable help to those of us who are so vitally interested in the People who made this Nation. I have only recently, within the past 3 yrs. become so absorbed in this fascinating work and now am realizing just what it means to future generations. We note you are within 100 miles of Birmingham, and 35 miles from Tuscaloosa--You might contact either Post Office for a local D.A.R. Chaper and you might want to keep the Diary in your own State Capitol, D.A.R. library, or the historical library, but do have it "protected" and preserved for the future. Trusting we may hear from you in the very near future, and with kindest regards to you and yours, Sincerely, Mrs. I. B. Cate, 10 South 15th St., Duncan, Okla. ******** 502 Texas Ave. Austin 5, Texas April 25, 1957 Rev. F.S. Moseley: Would you notarize the enclosed page regarding Rev. Peter Haskew's diary? A cousin is attempting to join the Daughters of American Revolution through Stephen Pipkin, and it seems that everything in the book is needed. We didn't know that they would require so much, but as we don't have bible records for anyone but Nancy Ann Delila Pipkin, daughter of Martin, we are having to use everything that coincides, or all the circumstantial evidence. Where you put "ect" I wonder if there would be some more information. If so, I wish it was filled in, but hate to ask you to make another copy. I have never been able to get marriage record for Martin and his wife. In the 1850 census in Arkansas his wife is given as Fereba, and we have never worked out why Rev. Lewis Pipkin's wife was Ferebey Beasley and Martin's also. I just wonder if someone made a mistake for Lewis' wife but don't know. I am enclosing a check for $5.00. If it costs more than that to get this information notarized, let me know. The woman who wrote me just wants you to certify that it is a true and correct copy of an old diary of Rev. Peter Haskew's, and anything else you can think of to say. Surely will appreciate your doing this for us. Hope you and your family are fine, and with all best wishes. Most sincerely, Lucie C. Price (Mrs.) Lucie Clift Price ************ June 2, 1957 Dear Mr. Moseley - I have found that the University of Texas has a number of books on Methodism. So I got "Pioneers of Methodism in N.C. & Va." by Rev. M.H. Moore. Dr. Shipp's "History of Methodism in S.C." - Rev. John G. Jones "Methodism in Mississippi" - and Rev. Anson West's "Methodism in Alabama" - and have gleaned what I could from them. They are all most interesting - and somewhat overlap in early days. I found the references to Barnabas, Lewis, Richard and Stephen Pipkin - which you had already given me. Also the names Mellard, Griffin and Winans - (names in Pipkin family later) and other data. But I still can not determine when the family first embrased Methodism. Maybe in N.C. but more likely in S.C. I have found something else of interest - _________(unable to read this line)_______ that is about my son in law's great great grandfather Rev. Matthew Bowman - in Vol. I, p. 227-231 And Rev. Matthew's son James married Caroline S. Daugherty, daughter of George Daugherty of Miss. who was son of George Daugherty of S.C. - So my grandson Thornton Hardie Bowman IV is a great-great-great-great grandson of Rev. Matthew Bowman and of Rev. George Daugherty. 1. Matthew Bowman b. Sumter Dist. S.C. 1757 d. 1827 2. James Bowman b. Sumter Dist. S.C. May 10, 1798 d. Washita Parish, La. Oct. 1876 md. 2nd. 1835 Caroline S. Daugherty d. of Geo. D. of Miss. & gd of Geo. D. of S.C. four children 1. Thomas unm. d. 1866 2. Thornton Hardie I Thornton Hardie II Thornton Hardie III Thornton Hardie IV 3. Francis Edwin 4. Katie My son in law has a book with other descendants of Rev. Matthew Bowman in it also. Some moved to Texas. Also, my son in law's great uncle by marriage Dr. Cody - was Pres. of Southwestern Univ. in Georgetown, Texas. I had known there was a Methodist heritage back of my son in law Hardie's family - but didn't realize how much till recently. But you can't use this, as you are working on Alabama preachers. However, I thought it might be of interest to you - in passing - I noticed that John G. Jones (Methodist in Miss.) wrote Barnabas Pipkin's obituary and Rev. A.C. Ramsey wrote Lewis Pipkin's - and after seeing their names and appointments in these books - there is more significance attatched now. And I found Blanton P. Bax and Peter Haskew's names - You already know all this of course - but I understand more clearly how they tie in with the Pipkin family. Conference has just met down here (in San Antonio) and preachers changed, etc. So I'm wondering if you will be moved to a new "station" before long. I would like to know your new address if you are moved. If ever you find, or hear of an old cemetery near Bellville & Sardis church - & Stephen & Amelia Pipkin's graves - let me know. I know nearly the Sardis cemetery & church near Stamps, Ark. where Martin Pipkin is buried was named for the Sardis in Ala. Sincerely Lucie Clift Price There was an Elisha W. Bowman 1806 in La. p. 545 (John G Jones' Miss. Meth.) don't know relation. Also a P.G. Bowman expelled in 1870 (year 1834) from "Early Meth. in the Carolinas" by Rev. A.M. Chreitzberg - & W.R.H. Moseley (1829) transferred to Ga. 1830 - any kin to you? ******** April 3, 1958 Dear Rev. Moseley, You may have moved by now but am sure letters are forwarded to you. I wanted to tell you that we have located a granddaughter of Rev. Barnabas Pipkin - she is the only grandchild he had. She has sent us data from an old bible - giving dates about his (Rev. B's) children - one daughter & 6 sons - The names of Rev. Barnabas brothers were given to Rev. B's sons - except David. The granddaughter's name is Mrs. Martha Elizabeth Pipkin Baer - her address - 2529 East 14th Place, Tulsa 4, Okla. Her son & daughter also live in Tulsa. Mrs. Baer is 79 - writes a nice hand - & recalls early times - Would you like a copy of Rev. Barnabas' children's names, dates? I can't find a Rev. Cain's address in Miss. who tried to help us - wanted to tell him about Mrs. Betty Baer. Oh yes - she has a picture of Rev. Barnabas - we hope to get a copy. Hope you and your family are in good health. Sincerely, Lucie C. Price ******** Lilla McLure sent me the letters Mrs. Baer wrote her - which I copied - Parts are repetitious and rambling - but they give an insight into the family - You may find a few things of interest - so I'm sending my copy for you to see - but don't mention to Mrs. Baer I've sent this to you - as she might not want people to read it - tho I think what she wrote is all right - and nothing to be ashamed of - Lilla is going to have the funeral nothce photostated - I'm sure there's more to the bible record - as she sent na marriages - & no mention of Mrs. Bradford - 2nd wife - Believe I told you Mrs. Baer is the only grandchild Rev. B. had - Rev B. used the names of his brothers, (except David) his father, and (John was also a Pipkin name) for his sons - Note the Winans, Clintons - Don't know the derivation of the other names except Anna was a Hanna name & Susannah was a sister of Rev. B. _________ points - and how important photostats - and the picture of Rev. Barnabas P. are - You can tell her that I & "Miss McLure" are so happy over finding her - that we shared the good news with you - knowing your interest - etc. I asked her what was on the fly - leaf of the bible and date - She wrote - "New York - published by N Bangs and J. Emory for the Methodist Episcopal Church at the Conference Office - 14 Crosby Street - 1827" So, we want a photostat of that too - I told Mrs. Baer - that ws Nathan Bangs - who wrote the History of Methodist Church 1839 We can send you typed copy - but we want photostats - Go ahead & write to her if you want to - it might be a good idea - & bring results. Sincerely, Lucie Price Told Mrs. Baer how our Pipkin history was so tied in with Methodist church - She knew nothing of Rev. B's brothers or sisters. ******** Mrs. L. Clift Price 502 Texas Avenue Austin, Texas April 7, 1958 Dear Rev. Moseley, I thought you'd be interested in the Rev. B. Pipkin bible - etc - as we certainly are. We're trying our best to get Mrs. Baer to have photostats made. She seems to think her copying the records is sufficient. I wrote to her yesterday - & tried to explain why photostats were so much more valuable - and authentic. Also told her how interested the Methodist church would be to have it - how the history of M.E. church was being brought up to date. I mentioned your name (& Rev. Haskew's diary). Told her of the photostats I had obtained of matters relating to the Pipkins. So we'll see what effect my letter has. She told Lilla McLure - 1038 Sheridan, Shreveport, La. she'd try to have Rev. Barnabas photo copied. Lilla is "working" on her too. I don't think it would hurt anything for you to write to her tho - tell her how you have helped us with the Pipkin data - Your interest from the church history view. __________ (?????? page has Mrs. L. Clift Price letter head) and Martin had a sister Mary - who married a Wm. Griffin Weaver - It sounds so Alabamish & Pipkin-ish. The Calliham family say they're kin to the Pipkins - but they don't know how - exactly. I wondered about the Wilbur Fisk name in both Pipkin & Callihan families. Tonight on TV I watched a picture (old movie) about a catholic priest missionary in China - and there was a part about a methodist missionary - and he was called Wilbur Fisk. It was certainly a coincidence that just this evening I had asked you about the name and then it was in this movie on TV -so now - it must be he was an early Methodist missionary to China - but I still wonder if Rev. Barnabas knew him perhaps. The picture had Wilbur Fisk from Maine. ******** June 7, 1958 Dear Rev. Moseley, I am enclosing the pictures & photostat - I got the bible photostats - they are interesting - Mrs. Baer sent me reproductions of pictures - Rev. Barnabas, several of his sons, the old Darlington church - Do you want to see them? I know you do tho - Sincerely, Lucie Price I wrote Rev. Cain - & he never____________ ******** 502 Texas Ave Austin 5 Texas Aug. 13, 1960 Dear Rev Moseley- Thank you for the Beasley items - So surprising you would remember - I didn't know there was a New Orleans Christian Advocate - That "Christian Advocate" has me puzzled as to where it was published through the years - Now - it's at Nashville, Tenn - I believe - I've wanted to get the exact date and name of paper for Rev. Barnabas and Rev. Lewis Pipkin's obituaries _ All Rev. Lewis Pipkins has is "Christian Advocate" - written by A. C. Ramsey, Camden, Ark. Feb. 18, 1879 - The one about Barnabas has no heading except Rev. Barnabas Pipkin" by J.G. Jones, Port Gibson, Miss. July 1, 1879. The Ira P. Beasley is the ancestor of Miss Persia Beasley of Pheba, Miss. I didn't know he married a Mixon - That Mixon name crops up in Ark.- I think - I'll send Miss Persia this item - if she's still living - I have a cousin who promised to go to see Miss Persia but she never has - Another Pipkin cousin, Mrs. Russell Bailey of Cobbersville Miss. did go to see her -and said she lives alone - on a farm - The post mistress went with her - and said she'd see if the ladies of the church couldn'to help look after her - It has made me sad - to think of her being so alone - She has an old quilt - a beautiful thing - she wanted to sell for $75 - & if only I had the $75! It was made by the Ann Pipkin - she said - I must write to her - I never did connect our Beasley's - Mrs. Gand____tried to help me - I found Conecuh Co. Ala. census records - some who went to Ark- & know they were brothers to Martin's wife Nancy - Then there was Lewis's wife Phariby Beasley - then this John & Ann Pipkin Beasley - but I can't get them straight as to relationship - unless John (father of Ira) was brother of Phariby - But where Nancy Beasley comes in ! I have contacted the Beasley's in Arkansas - & they know they were kin to the Pipkins - just as Mis Persia knows she had "Uncle Barnabas Pipkin" - A man in S.C. thought he could help me, but he didn't - Not long ago I had a letter from a woman with a Stott Harrell in her family Well - that probably also originates in S.C - Ga - or Ala - but I couldn't help her. Mrs. Lewis Graves Stott 515 N. Northwest Hwy Park Ridge, Illinois Her mother told her 34 years ago the boy she was dating, Lewis Stott, might turn out to be related as she (the mother) had a cousin named Stott Harrell. Her mother - Margaret Jane Harrell b. Nov. 15, 1837 New Marion, Ripley Co. Ink d. March 24, 1882, Halton, Ind Her parents - Isaac Deacon or David Harrell b. July 4, 1810 m. Dec. 25, 1829 d. May 9, 1893 New Marion, Ind Isaac md - Nancy Jane Davidson Brown Benj. Davidson Brown & Mary Poe (VA) B. D. Brown - b. Aug. 1, 1778 m. March 21, 1800 d. Jan 6, 1860 Mary Poe - b. April 1, 1779 d. July 20, 1852 Isaac's parents - John David Harrell b. 1763 - 40 miles east of Jonesboro, Tenn - d. 1814 (?) md - Sofia Deacon - or Cassia Deacon - 14 children - She has a note "Matthew Lewis Harrell m - Mary Bryan" But she doesn't say where the Stott came in - Indiana is off my path - so all I can tell her is - Harrells in N.C. S. C. - Stotts in Alabama - but where they "jined" I would not know. Have you ever run across any Methodist preachers named Sherwood? Thomas Emory Sherwood in Texas - died about 1897 - and a Rev. Jermiah Field Sherwood also in Texas - If you ever see "them" in an Advocate - tell me please or have a copy made & I'll pay for it - the J.F.one supposed to have help found Methodist Hospital in Dallas. They were originally from Indiana - North Carolina - Maryland Just didn't know if the Conference had left you in Eutaw or not - Good __ I had a letter the other day from Dr. James Lewis Pipkin, Medical Arts Bldg. San Antonio, Texas. Wondering what I had done & found - He is from the Rev. Lewis line - Daniel Griffin - Wm. Pendleton, James Andrew - Pipkin. I told him I just didn't have time to write it up long as I was working but would soon as I could. See - you had to read several pages - & be "bored" by sending me that data - Thank you so much - you are most kind to remember. Sincerely, Lucie Clift Price Did you ever copy all of Rev. Haskew's diary? I'd like a copy if it's available or you have published it in anything. ******** September 15, 1961 Coffeeville, Mississippi Rev. Frank Moseley Eutaw, Alabama Dear Rev. Moseley, I am interested in a Methodist minister in Alabama named Christopher Pritchett. Did he have any connection with the Evergreen Academy(School) for Girls? I thought perhaps there was an obituary for him from Clarke County where he died between 1840-1845. What do you know of Simpson's Camp Ground in Conecuh County, Ala.? In the fall of 1834 and 1835 my great-great-grandfather lived on the Conecuh Circuit to which A.C. Ramsey was appointed by the Ala. Conference ___________ - ordained in 1800 by Asbury in South C.. Was Rev. Lewis Pipkin, who died in Arkansas in 1865. Do you have anything about the man? I would especially like to know about him and his wife Pheriby Beasley. All I have is his obituary from July 3, 1879 issue of the New Orleans Advocate. Thank you very much for any information you have for either of these preachers. Sincerely yours, (Mrs. Russell) Margaret M. Bailey My daughter, Donna, is rooming with Sarah Moseley from Mount Airy, N.C. this year at the University of North Carolina. I wonder if she is your relative? ******** 502 Texas Ave. Austin 5 Texas Sept. 21, 1961 Dear Rev. Moseley, Thank you so much for sending the card about the book "The History of Methodism in Alabama & West Florida". You are sweet to think of me. I have just ordered two copies from Rev. Tate. My sincere congradulations to you on your long and tedious efforts to produce this book. I know it will be eagerly received by many people. I have wanted to give a book to the Harlingen, Texas library in memory of my uncle, C.W. Clift who passed away July 20, and think this book is the answer. He was so proud of his Pipkin ancestry and his preacher great uncles. I feel sure you included them in your book - or at least one or two. The chapel addition to the First Methodist church in Harlingen is named Clift Chapel, and he & his wife were charter members of the first Methodist church there. And I'm sure there are people there who will enjoy and apprecatethe book. I wish I could afford to buy a copy for the Arkansas State Library, but perhaps they will purchase one. The price of the book seems very reasonable due to the fact, I feel sure, that the work done by you and others was a labor of love and not done for profit. I am wondering if you used Rev. Barnabas Pipkin's picture I sent you. I keep getting a little more data on the Pipkins but have not started writing them up yet. However, I retired from working last May and hope to get started before too long. I have ordered family group sheets which I hope some families will fill out & return to me I wonder if you used Rev. Haskew's diary in any way in the book. Do you contemplate printing it? Thank you again for thinking of me. Sincerely, Mrs. Lucie Clift Price ******** Coffeeville, Mississippi Nov. 3, 1961 Rev. Franklin S. Moseley 107 Eutaw Avenue Eutaw, Alabama Dear Brother Moseley: I am wondering if you know of any way to find the old church records on the Conecuh Circuit. Rev. A.C. Ramsey in his obituary of July 3, 1879 (West p. 201 1865) for Rev. Lewis Pipkin states that he, Bro. Ramsey, was appointed in 1835 to the Conecuh Circuit by the Ala. Conf. I believe Bro. Ramsey conducted the funeral services of Stephen and Amelia Pipkin in 1836 and 1840 respectively. They are Rev. Lewis Pipkins parents. I need to prove their deaths by stating where Stephen and Amelia Pipkin are buried and I believe it would be in the church records of Conecuh Circuit. Mrs. Price said you had a Diary of Peter Haskew that stated Amelia's death. Could you have the page photostated for me? I'll pay the cost if you let me know the amount. I also need to photostat the page in West's History of Methodism that states Rev. Lewis Pipkin married Pheriby Beasley when he was going on 22 years of age. I'll send you a check for both pages if you can have it done for me. I need it for proof on a D.A.R. application for a cousin of mine. Thank you so much for your help. Without you and Mrs. Lucie Price of Austin, I couldn't establish this Pipkin line. It is a line to be proud of. Sincerely yours Margaret McClure Bailey (Mrs. Russell Bailey) P.S. Are there any descendants of a Presbyterian minister named Nichols Ross Morgan still living in Eutaw now? My mother was a Morgan and I am interested in that family too. * Wm Riddle Ward, great grandson who says name was Nicholson ********* November 8, 1961 Mrs. Russell Bailey Coffeeville Mississippi Dear Mrs. Bailey The Annual Conference appointments from year to year are all the records that I know about Conecuh Circuit, which long ago ceased to be an appointment. You refer to Rev. A. C. Ramsey writing the obituary of Rev. Lewis Pipkin, who died July 3, 1879, but West's History says 1865 (page 201) You can write the Alabama Department of Archives & History, Montgomery, Alabama, attention of Alex. Bush, and get photostats of West's History, pages 201 and 202, which give the data you want. Rev. Lewis Pipkin was in his 22nd year, which means that he was 21, when he married Pherebee Beasley. As to the Diary of Peter Haskew, I think I had the pages you want notarized and sent to Mrs. Lucie Price. Please write her and see if you can get copy of that as the old Diary is old and badly faded and I do not take it out often. Let me know if you can't get copy from Mrs. Price and I will try to get you a copy. William Riddle Ward, retired architect, and his sister Mrs. Mary Morgan (Ward) Glass, are children of William Riddle Ward 1861-1927, grand children of James R _______ Ward who married Mary Caroline Morgan 1838-1916, and great grand children of Rev. Nicholson Ross Morgan (married Mary Wilson Alexander), and I'm sure they can give you data on the Morgans. William says the name was Nicholson and not Nicholas is the reason I put it Nicholson. Sincerely F. S. Moseley *********** 502 Texas Ave. Austin 5, Texas Nov. 9, 1961 Dear Rev Moseley, I was looking at 1850 Ouachita Co. Ark. today - principally for Josiah Moores - whom I found - he's an ancestor - But what really surprised me was seeing Rev. Blanton P. Box living with Rev. Wm. Moores. I guess they knew each other in Alabama. From the Methodist History of Ala. - I saw Rev. W. Moores went to Arkansas about 1845 or '46 - and there he is in Ouachita Co. in 1850 - and Rev. Box with him. It's amazing how many people )of mine) converged on Ouachita County. Do you have any data on Rev. Wm Moores? He is said to have gone to Downey, Calif about 1876. I believe he was a brother of my great great grandmother, Elizabeth H. Moores who m. Chas. N. Norwood - and they were children of Josiah Moores - shown in census with L.B. Moores - who I think was Lawner Black Moores - Also I believe the John W. Moores may have been another brother and son. There is a book_____________________________ and Jean Brown and Allied Families" by Mrs. Wm R. Wright pub 1911 and she gives as children of Josiah Moores - Lawner Black Moores, Rev. William Moores and Hannah Moores - she could have been ignorant of John W. Moores - I'm trying to prove that Hannah was Elizabeth H. They lived in Lincoln Co. Tenn. Elizabeth H. Moores m. Chas. N. Norwood 1816. Their daughter - Elizabeth Ann Norwood m. Wm. W. Clift 28 Now. 1833. Jonah Norwood was a brother of Eliz. Ann and he is found in Ouachita Co. 1850 as are the Pipkin family. Eliz. A. Norwood & Wm. W. Clift had Henry Harrison Clift 1837 md. Nancy A.D. Pipkin so there the Moores & Pipkins joined. I had never heard before that Josiah Moores was a minister - so will have to look at Tenn. Methodism I guess - doubt if he was active in Arkansas.. I took down some other names - which concern another Moores descendant. You can return this unless you want to keep it. Rev. Wm. Moores is said to have had 12 children - only 4 shown here - as I presume the Reuben & Glavonia are Rev. Box's children. I may be able to get more on Rev. Wm. Moores for you if you want it - from the Ross book - etc - he is said to have md 1841 Juliet Susan Harowick first - no ch. - and 2nd Eldridge Maria Greening Jan. 21, 1844. Notice Julia - age 6- born Miss - prob. when they were going from Ala. to Ark. So - thought it might interest you to see Blanton P. Box in 1850 and I want to know if you have anything on Rev. William Moores. Sincerely Lucie Clift Price Think Rev. Wm Moores died about 1889 or 1891 in Los Angeles County, Calif. there might be a will - tho I doubt it. ******** February 17, 1965 Rev. Franklin S. Moseley 107 Eutaw Avenue Eutaw, Alabama Dear Brother Moseley: I am bothering you again about Rev. Lewis Pipkin and his family. I have letters from you to Mrs. Clift Price, 502 Texas Ave., Austin, Texas who had done so much research on the Pipkin Family. I am a descendant of Lewis Pipkin through his son, Daniel Griffin Pipkin, who married Julia Marks. I have been trying to find the graves of Stephen Pipkin and Amelia Thomson Pipkin, who I believe are buried at the Old Sardis Church Cemetary near Castleberry, Alabama in Conecuh County, Alabama. In 1963 my brothers and I were going to Troy, Alabama to a McLure Family Reunion and just happened to see on the roadside a church with the sign, The Belleville Methodist Church. I had my brother stop and we looked at the tombstones in the cemetery adjoining the church and I realized the names were familiar but the dates were too recent. Some people were coming to church so we introduced ourselves and asked them if their church had always been on the spot it is now. They did not know. I suggested that I was almost positive there was an older church somewhere in the area and I asked them to look for it and inquire about it. I really felt that the Old Sardis Church Rev. Lewis Pipkin helped to organize was in this vicinity. I am enclosing you the reply I received from Miss Helen Barlow we met that July 1963 Sunday. She was excithed and thrilled to find out about her church history and I was hopeful to find the graves of Rev. Lewis Pipkin's parents, but I did not. They are probably there in unmarked graves. I am asking you to help me virify the date of Lewis Pipkin's and Martin Pipkin's Mother's death. It is stated in Rev. Peter Haskew's Diary. That is my only record since I can not find the tombstone record. Would you certify a copy of that statement for me? I'll send you the charge of certification. Also I am interested in the history of the old Sardis Church, which Mr. Price and my Aunt tried so hard to find. I found it by chance and I am anxious to find is there are any records or minutes pertaining to it in existence. I thought you were the one to know where to look for that as you know Alabama Church History so well. Please tell me where to write or send me the information if you have it. Wouldn't it be fine if we could find Quarterly Conference Minutes for this old church where Rev. Lewis Pipkin, Joshua Calloway, and others worked? Could you check the Conecuh Circuit where Rev. Lewis Pipkin was in 1835? Was it the same area as Belleville Circuit? Thank you for any help on the history of this old Church where many fine people in their life time received no eulogy and yet deserved the most Sincerely yours Margaret McLure Bailey Mrs. Russell Bailey Coffeeville, Mississippi ******** Mr. & Mrs. Wiley J.S. Smith, Jr. 314 West Fifth St Phone 352-2618 Fordyce, Arkansas, 71742 March 25, 1965 Alabama Department of Archives and History Montgomery, Alabama Gentlemen; I am searching for marriage record of Jacob B. Hutt to Thurza Pipkin. I have written to the county in which they were married, Conecuh Co., but they tell me that their records do not go back that far, 1820-1830. Can you help me? These people were Methodists. In the event that you have none of these records is there any likihood that I might be able to get this information elsewhere? Yours truly Mrs. W.K.S. Smith, Jr. ******** Fordyce Ark. April 6, 1965 Dear Mr. Moseley, I have information on the Pipkins to fill my needs just now, but am short on Jacob B. Hutt. I appreciate your interest. Could you be related to the Moseleys in this section of Arkansas? W.J.S. Smith, Jr. Fordyce, Ark. ******** Mrs. P.B. Price 2527 Harris Boulevard Austin, Texas 78703 April 23, 1968 Dear Rev. Moseley: It was certainly a pleasure to see your handwriting again. I know you are busy getting out the new book - I just wrote a check and order to Hamton Lee Johnston for it. (Wure messed up his name) I am wondering how much it will overlap the other book "History of Methodism in Alabama and West Florida" by Lazenby (and you). But I feel sure it will have some different things in it. Are you going to use that picture of Barnabas Pipkin I sent you and you had copied? I don't know if he qualifies for the new book or not tho. I am glad to know that you are enjoying "tolerable"good health. You kwwp so busy you don't have time to be ill - and that is good. Thanks a lot for the information you sent. I just didn't know a thing about Mrs. S.M. Marshall. This morning I got her book that Duncan Merriwether loaned me - but think I will order one from her. Duncan Merriwether lives out from Philadelphia, Pa. - he is of that Abbeville, S.C. clan - and later Green Co. Ala. he has been very nice about writing me - loaned me a photostat of Capt. John Meriwether's will - told me some things, etc. Thanks for the names of Mrs. Rachel Meriwether Hamilton, and Mrs. Mary Morgan Glass. Wish you would casually ask Mrs. Hamilton what her lineage is - especially the Chiles part - she may or may not know. I see a Rachel Meriwether Broadnax Hamilton, b. 1910, in the book, don't know if that is she or not. Is Mrs. Glass of the same line? I found her in the Meriwether book - looks like she is a desc. of Dr. Willis Lida Meriwether = Wm. R. Ward, Mary Morgan Ward = Cecil Robertson Glass. That Judith Pollard Chiles was a dau. of William Chiles - his will is on record and Lewis Bell Chiles was one of the executors. I wrote one descendant of Judith P. Childs Meriwether and she didn't know "for nothing" about the Chiles family. I will try Mrs. Glass. I would like to find a descendant of Larkin Chiles - born Nov. 27, 1797-died Nov. 11, 1853, buried Mesopotamia Cemetery, Greene Co. Larkin was a brother of Lewis Bell Chiles. I have dates for the family of James Chiles - and the Larkin Chiles date is the same as the cemetery - except didn't have death date. I don't have any of the children of Lewis B. Childs' brothers or sisters. I will keep mum as to how I got Mrs. Glass's name. That Snedecor Directory sounds interesting - so here is my check. 1856 is too late for our Lewis B. Chiles, but since many of the Meriwethers and Chiles and others stayed in Greene Co. it will be of interest. I always feel that one should get a county record when possible, as they go out of print, and so few of them in libraries. I may get Mrs. Marshall to send me copies of a deed or two. I got some data from Mrs. Gandrud several years ago. You will likely be ready for a rest time you get that book out. I can tell Mrs. Glass that I saw her name in the Meriwether book - that she lives in Eutaw, and is a desc. of Judtih Pollard Chiles - reason enough to write her. It is all in the book. She formerly lived in Marlin, Texas, it says and her husband was a lawyer. I don't find many Meriwethers or Chiles in Mrs. Marshall's book - in cemetery records. It may be they are buried in private cemeteries. Mrs. Gandrud told me once there was a Meriwether one. Maybe Chiles too. Won't be many years till I reach that 7th decade - I will be 68 this summer. It has been ten years or more since I first wrote you. Time does get by fast. I keep trying to do research whereas I should stop and write up what I have. And I simply must as my children would never know how to interpret some of the items I have gathered. But it is mor fun to find things. Thank you so very much for taking time to answer my letter. I will be "talking" to you again. And much success on your book. Most sincerely, Lucie C. Price